6: Homemade Armor Piercing Ammo – Austin Jones

6: Homemade Armor Piercing Ammo – Austin Jones

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We will obsolete regimes of control with technology.

Today’s guest is the Nicola Tesla of ammunition. Austin Jones is the Cofounder and Chief Engineer at the non-profit research organization Atlas Arms. Their first concept in development is the Dagny Dagger project – a new type of legally-unrestricted handgun ammunition which in 9mm Luger is able to penetrate all soft armor and some rifle-rated hard armor. This will allow citizens the first legal access to armor-penetrating ammunition since 1986. The projectiles are intended to be more readily home-manufactured than traditional AP ammo, and all research and data including Ghost Gunner code will be released open-source. The work will begin on 9mm Luger with future plans for Dagny Dagger loadings in 10mm/.40SW, 5.56, .308, and possibly 5.7. The Dagger will also debut APHP (Armor-Penetrating Hollow Point) bullets, a novel projectile design which boasts superior armor penetration while expanding and fragmenting on soft, unarmored targets for multirole performance.


  • Austin’s reasons for developing armor piercing ammunition
  • What if people use his ammo to kill cops wearing body armor?
  • Why ammunition is protected by the 2nd Amendment
  • When and why armor piercing ammo became illegal
  • Obsoleting regimes of control out of existence through engineering and technology 
  • The space age technology of the Dagny Dagger bullet
  • Open sourcing bullet design
  • Plans for the Ghost Gunner